Comments on: STOP! Don’t Touch that Ball on the Cart Path http://www.ncga.org/2007/04/01/stop-don%e2%80%99t-touch-that-ball-on-the-cart-path/ Northern California Golf Association Fri, 16 May 2008 11:38:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2 By: Gail Rogers http://www.ncga.org/2007/04/01/stop-don%e2%80%99t-touch-that-ball-on-the-cart-path/#comment-785 Gail Rogers Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:45:03 +0000 http://www.ncga.org/2007/04/01/stop-don%e2%80%99t-touch-that-ball-on-the-cart-path/#comment-785 Hi Nick, In your situation playing from the path might be your best option. Remember what you are taking releif from is an obstruction. While you might get that releif, it does not guarantee that you have a playalbe lie. As an alternative to playing from the path, you can under penalty of one stroke declare your ball unplayable and drop within 2 club-lengths and that might get you to the fairway side depending on the width of the path. Gail Hi Nick,

In your situation playing from the path might be your best option.

Remember what you are taking releif from is an obstruction. While you might get that releif, it does not guarantee that you have a playalbe lie.

As an alternative to playing from the path, you can under penalty of one stroke declare your ball unplayable and drop within 2 club-lengths and that might get you to the fairway side depending on the width of the path.

Gail

]]> By: Nick Leonoudakis http://www.ncga.org/2007/04/01/stop-don%e2%80%99t-touch-that-ball-on-the-cart-path/#comment-772 Nick Leonoudakis Sun, 27 Apr 2008 23:24:22 +0000 http://www.ncga.org/2007/04/01/stop-don%e2%80%99t-touch-that-ball-on-the-cart-path/#comment-772 I had a situation at Sharp Park Golf Course the Par 5 #4 hole. The cart path goes up the left side of the fairway. My ball came to rest on the cart path nearer to left side. There are bushes along the left side of the cart path. If I understand the rule, I must drop inside the bush? That doesn't seem like relief to me. Can I go to the other side of the cart path no closer to the hole? Help someone! I had a situation at Sharp Park Golf Course the Par 5 #4 hole.
The cart path goes up the left side of the fairway.
My ball came to rest on the cart path nearer to left side.
There are bushes along the left side of the cart path.
If I understand the rule, I must drop inside the bush?
That doesn’t seem like relief to me.
Can I go to the other side of the cart path no closer to the
hole?
Help someone!

]]> By: Gail Rogers http://www.ncga.org/2007/04/01/stop-don%e2%80%99t-touch-that-ball-on-the-cart-path/#comment-674 Gail Rogers Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:43:32 +0000 http://www.ncga.org/2007/04/01/stop-don%e2%80%99t-touch-that-ball-on-the-cart-path/#comment-674 Colin, Please look at Rule 24 Obstructions. Relief without penalty is available for a ball on a cart path - immovable obstruction. See response to Ed for finding the nearest point of releif. Then it is one club length from that point. It is not "no more than 2". I am not sure where you got that bit of incorrect information unless you were looking at Temporary Immovable Obstructions which is for relief from obstructions that are not normally on the course except for major championshps - scoreboards, grand stands, portable restrooms, food concession areas, etc. You do not want that informtion in your normal course play as it does not apply. Gail Colin,

Please look at Rule 24 Obstructions. Relief without penalty is available for a ball on a cart path - immovable obstruction. See response to Ed for finding the nearest point of releif. Then it is one club length from that point. It is not “no more than 2″. I am not sure where you got that bit of incorrect information unless you were looking at Temporary Immovable Obstructions which is for relief from obstructions that are not normally on the course except for major championshps - scoreboards, grand stands, portable restrooms, food concession areas, etc. You do not want that informtion in your normal course play as it does not apply.

Gail

]]> By: Colin http://www.ncga.org/2007/04/01/stop-don%e2%80%99t-touch-that-ball-on-the-cart-path/#comment-662 Colin Mon, 10 Mar 2008 03:07:43 +0000 http://www.ncga.org/2007/04/01/stop-don%e2%80%99t-touch-that-ball-on-the-cart-path/#comment-662 Gail, I am also confused on this you say that "without a penalty is a one club length" and my unerstanding is that in this circumstance your drop is no more that 2 club lengths? Which you say is a penalty relief? Gail,
I am also confused on this you say that “without a penalty is a one club length” and my unerstanding is that in this circumstance your drop is no more that 2 club lengths? Which you say is a penalty relief?

]]> By: Gail Rogers http://www.ncga.org/2007/04/01/stop-don%e2%80%99t-touch-that-ball-on-the-cart-path/#comment-140 Gail Rogers Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:49:20 +0000 http://www.ncga.org/2007/04/01/stop-don%e2%80%99t-touch-that-ball-on-the-cart-path/#comment-140 Dear Rose, When it is releif without a penalty it is one club-length. When you are taking releif with a penalty it is 2 club-lengths. Dear Ed, Take your address position on both side of the cart path, not nearer the hole. Put a golf tee where the clubhead touches the ground. Now measure from the ball to that tee. Which is the nearest point of releif. REMINDER: On one side you have to get your feet off the path and then "address the imaginary ball" on the other side, it is where the club head can be positioned without swinging and striking the cart path. Dear Rose,

When it is releif without a penalty it is one club-length. When you are taking releif with a penalty it is 2 club-lengths.

Dear Ed, Take your address position on both side of the cart path, not nearer the hole. Put a golf tee where the clubhead touches the ground. Now measure from the ball to that tee. Which is the nearest point of releif. REMINDER: On one side you have to get your feet off the path and then “address the imaginary ball” on the other side, it is where the club head can be positioned without swinging and striking the cart path.

]]> By: Ed Johnson http://www.ncga.org/2007/04/01/stop-don%e2%80%99t-touch-that-ball-on-the-cart-path/#comment-113 Ed Johnson Mon, 03 Sep 2007 19:09:16 +0000 http://www.ncga.org/2007/04/01/stop-don%e2%80%99t-touch-that-ball-on-the-cart-path/#comment-113 If the ball touches the course side of the out of bounds line or stake is it deemed OB? if not then why can't you remove ob stakes if your ball is touching the ob stake on the course side of the ob stake, because it's not out of bounds unless it's on or over the ob line or on the outside of the ob stake? If the ball touches the course side of the out of bounds line or stake is it deemed OB? if not then why can’t you remove ob stakes if your ball is touching the ob stake on the course side of the ob stake, because it’s not out of bounds unless it’s on or over the ob line or on the outside of the ob stake?

]]> By: Ed Johnson http://www.ncga.org/2007/04/01/stop-don%e2%80%99t-touch-that-ball-on-the-cart-path/#comment-112 Ed Johnson Mon, 03 Sep 2007 19:03:03 +0000 http://www.ncga.org/2007/04/01/stop-don%e2%80%99t-touch-that-ball-on-the-cart-path/#comment-112 if the ball is on the road/cart path, nearest point of relief, does that mean from the edge of the road (cart path) that the ball is closest to? if the ball is on the road/cart path, nearest point of relief, does that mean from the edge of the road (cart path) that the ball is closest to?

]]> By: Ed http://www.ncga.org/2007/04/01/stop-don%e2%80%99t-touch-that-ball-on-the-cart-path/#comment-111 Ed Mon, 03 Sep 2007 18:59:12 +0000 http://www.ncga.org/2007/04/01/stop-don%e2%80%99t-touch-that-ball-on-the-cart-path/#comment-111 ball on cart path, nearest point of relief, does that mean from the edge of the road (cart path) that the ball is closest to? ball on cart path, nearest point of relief, does that mean from the edge of the road (cart path) that the ball is closest to?

]]> By: j. http://www.ncga.org/2007/04/01/stop-don%e2%80%99t-touch-that-ball-on-the-cart-path/#comment-105 j. Wed, 29 Aug 2007 13:31:35 +0000 http://www.ncga.org/2007/04/01/stop-don%e2%80%99t-touch-that-ball-on-the-cart-path/#comment-105 This article helped me a lot on my homework. This article helped me a lot on my homework.

]]> By: Rose Stinson http://www.ncga.org/2007/04/01/stop-don%e2%80%99t-touch-that-ball-on-the-cart-path/#comment-103 Rose Stinson Sun, 26 Aug 2007 23:28:35 +0000 http://www.ncga.org/2007/04/01/stop-don%e2%80%99t-touch-that-ball-on-the-cart-path/#comment-103 I'm confused about whether to take one club length or two club lengths from where you marked with tees to determine which is the closest relief spot. I’m confused about whether to take one club length or two club lengths from where you marked with tees to determine which is the closest relief spot.

]]>