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	<title>Comments on: Competing From Different Sets of Tees</title>
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		<title>By: Jim Clavin DuPont CC</title>
		<link>http://www.ncga.org/2007/06/18/competing-from-different-sets-of-tees/comment-page-1/#comment-7708</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Clavin DuPont CC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 15:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our problem: we have members 50 - 87yrs old. Someone has come up with a system designed to level the playing field. Those who are 80 can play from the forward tees also those whose hdcp index is 18 or above.We tried to change the slope of each course but have met with people who don&#039;t like this. The hdcps range from 6.5 to 22.0. Any good way to fix this ????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our problem: we have members 50 &#8211; 87yrs old. Someone has come up with a system designed to level the playing field. Those who are 80 can play from the forward tees also those whose hdcp index is 18 or above.We tried to change the slope of each course but have met with people who don&#8217;t like this. The hdcps range from 6.5 to 22.0. Any good way to fix this ????</p>
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		<title>By: Roseann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roseann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Apr 2013 01:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s wonderful that you are getting thoughts from this article as well as from our dialogue made here.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Apr 2013 16:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do you apply differential when you have a 2 person mixed couple playing against another 2 person mixed couple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you apply differential when you have a 2 person mixed couple playing against another 2 person mixed couple.</p>
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		<title>By: TK</title>
		<link>http://www.ncga.org/2007/06/18/competing-from-different-sets-of-tees/comment-page-1/#comment-6399</link>
		<dc:creator>TK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 07:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If a woman has 5.5 index and plays from the men&#039;s Blue tees rated 72.7/139 and 6500 yards..
How many strokes would she receive?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If a woman has 5.5 index and plays from the men&#8217;s Blue tees rated 72.7/139 and 6500 yards..<br />
How many strokes would she receive?</p>
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		<title>By: Sahil</title>
		<link>http://www.ncga.org/2007/06/18/competing-from-different-sets-of-tees/comment-page-1/#comment-6396</link>
		<dc:creator>Sahil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2012 17:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I just wanted to start off by syaing  Congratulations!  on improving so much in such a little amount of time.  Next, I wanted to say that anyone can declare themselves a professional, but to become a certified member of the PGA (not the PGA Tour), you have to go through a few years worth of material and pass all of the material to become a PGA certified pro.  Also, the PGA requires its pros to play to a certain caliber, so there is a  tournament  that tells the PGA what your playing capabilities (I think the requirement is to shoot 85, but I&#039;m not sure).  But your long-term success depends on your general knowledge of the golf swing, its fundamentals, and, your people skills (trust me, no one wants a cocky moron as a swing coach).  Courses will hire you if your knowledge of the swing is advanced, if you present yourself well and with a smile, and and your skills with people are exceptional.  Beng certified by the PGA certainly helps!   One more thing I forgot to mention is that it helps to have a college degree (it makes you seem intelligent and business-oriented).  Degrees in business, finance, etc. can help you land a job at a nice country club.So, what do I think your chances are of becoming a club pro?  I think your chances are great if you have devotion and desire for the game and if you believe nothing is going to stop you from achieveing that goal!  If you have any doubt you&#039;ll reach your goal, than I **** to say your chances are bleak.  Good luck with everything and I hope the best of success for you!  golfboy2k10</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I just wanted to start off by syaing  Congratulations!  on improving so much in such a little amount of time.  Next, I wanted to say that anyone can declare themselves a professional, but to become a certified member of the PGA (not the PGA Tour), you have to go through a few years worth of material and pass all of the material to become a PGA certified pro.  Also, the PGA requires its pros to play to a certain caliber, so there is a  tournament  that tells the PGA what your playing capabilities (I think the requirement is to shoot 85, but I&#8217;m not sure).  But your long-term success depends on your general knowledge of the golf swing, its fundamentals, and, your people skills (trust me, no one wants a cocky moron as a swing coach).  Courses will hire you if your knowledge of the swing is advanced, if you present yourself well and with a smile, and and your skills with people are exceptional.  Beng certified by the PGA certainly helps!   One more thing I forgot to mention is that it helps to have a college degree (it makes you seem intelligent and business-oriented).  Degrees in business, finance, etc. can help you land a job at a nice country club.So, what do I think your chances are of becoming a club pro?  I think your chances are great if you have devotion and desire for the game and if you believe nothing is going to stop you from achieveing that goal!  If you have any doubt you&#8217;ll reach your goal, than I **** to say your chances are bleak.  Good luck with everything and I hope the best of success for you!  golfboy2k10</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Cowan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Cowan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Feb 2011 18:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kathi, thank you for your comment.  TPP can accommodate some golfers in one flight playing a different set of tees than the others (under the Course header, there is a function called Assign Tees).  Call our office if you need assistance activating this feature.  Whether you should do this is up to you.  Personally I am all in favor of golfers choosing to play from the set of tees that they will enjoy the course from the most . . . and the Handicap System has the flexibility to handle this.  The question is, does your club want this? Will it increase participation?  Does it create too much a burden on those running the tournament?  You will have to weigh the pros and cons of such a decision.  Thanks again and good luck!  Jim Cowan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathi, thank you for your comment.  TPP can accommodate some golfers in one flight playing a different set of tees than the others (under the Course header, there is a function called Assign Tees).  Call our office if you need assistance activating this feature.  Whether you should do this is up to you.  Personally I am all in favor of golfers choosing to play from the set of tees that they will enjoy the course from the most . . . and the Handicap System has the flexibility to handle this.  The question is, does your club want this? Will it increase participation?  Does it create too much a burden on those running the tournament?  You will have to weigh the pros and cons of such a decision.  Thanks again and good luck!  Jim Cowan</p>
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		<title>By: Kathi Fox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathi Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 07:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are in charge of a golf group with about 115 women playing each week.  Handicaps range from 6 to 40.  We have divided the flights (about 5-6 flights) and assigned red tees and silver tees (shortest set) according to handicaps with silver tees for handicaps 30 and above.  One or two women with 30+ handicaps would like to play the red tees and a couple of the women who are under 30 handicap would like to play the silver tees.  I understand the differences and how to apply the handicaps but our computer system (TPP) doesn&#039;t seem to be able to single out individual cases and should we even think about trying to accommodate a couple of women who want to play different tees in the same flight. This is causing us a lot of grief!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are in charge of a golf group with about 115 women playing each week.  Handicaps range from 6 to 40.  We have divided the flights (about 5-6 flights) and assigned red tees and silver tees (shortest set) according to handicaps with silver tees for handicaps 30 and above.  One or two women with 30+ handicaps would like to play the red tees and a couple of the women who are under 30 handicap would like to play the silver tees.  I understand the differences and how to apply the handicaps but our computer system (TPP) doesn&#8217;t seem to be able to single out individual cases and should we even think about trying to accommodate a couple of women who want to play different tees in the same flight. This is causing us a lot of grief!</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Cowan</title>
		<link>http://www.ncga.org/2007/06/18/competing-from-different-sets-of-tees/comment-page-1/#comment-3164</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Cowan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pat, thank you for your comment.  I am not aware of a specific year when the term &quot;Forward Tees&quot; was first uttered, but it is certainly a by-product of the age of political correctness (and I still don&#039;t think that this term has reached the masses).  I would suspect that the USGA in the late 80&#039;s or early 90&#039;s started recommending its use to get away from the stigma of the term &quot;Ladies&quot; tees.  Obviously there has never been anything preventing a woman playing from the White or Blue tees.  And there shouldn&#039;t have been anything preventing a man playing from the front, but as long as they were referred to as &quot;Ladies&quot; tees, this wasn&#039;t going to happen.  &quot;Red&quot; has inherited some of the negative connotations of &quot;Ladies,&quot; but not nearly to the same extent.  &quot;Forward,&quot; being non-gender specific, was considered the best alternative.  And ever so slowly, more men are playing the shorter tees.  Thanks again - Jim Cowan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pat, thank you for your comment.  I am not aware of a specific year when the term &#8220;Forward Tees&#8221; was first uttered, but it is certainly a by-product of the age of political correctness (and I still don&#8217;t think that this term has reached the masses).  I would suspect that the USGA in the late 80&#8242;s or early 90&#8242;s started recommending its use to get away from the stigma of the term &#8220;Ladies&#8221; tees.  Obviously there has never been anything preventing a woman playing from the White or Blue tees.  And there shouldn&#8217;t have been anything preventing a man playing from the front, but as long as they were referred to as &#8220;Ladies&#8221; tees, this wasn&#8217;t going to happen.  &#8220;Red&#8221; has inherited some of the negative connotations of &#8220;Ladies,&#8221; but not nearly to the same extent.  &#8220;Forward,&#8221; being non-gender specific, was considered the best alternative.  And ever so slowly, more men are playing the shorter tees.  Thanks again &#8211; Jim Cowan.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Lyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat Lyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jim,
I&#039;m writing an article for the Meadow Club Vista. Can you tell me when &quot;forward&quot; tees came to be and any other information you might have on red tees?
Thank you,
Pat Lyle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jim,<br />
I&#8217;m writing an article for the Meadow Club Vista. Can you tell me when &#8220;forward&#8221; tees came to be and any other information you might have on red tees?<br />
Thank you,<br />
Pat Lyle</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Cowan</title>
		<link>http://www.ncga.org/2007/06/18/competing-from-different-sets-of-tees/comment-page-1/#comment-2694</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Cowan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, the designation has been changed.  Thanks - Jim Cowan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, the designation has been changed.  Thanks &#8211; Jim Cowan</p>
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