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	<link>http://www.ncga.org/2007/06/18/fit-to-a-t/</link>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 08:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Scott Seward</title>
		<link>http://www.ncga.org/2007/06/18/fit-to-a-t/#comment-826</link>
		<author>Scott Seward</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 20:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.ncga.org/2007/06/18/fit-to-a-t/#comment-826</guid>
		<description>Burton - On the homepage, on the right side in the green box, you should see "Post a score." Click this link and you should be all set.

Thanks,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Burton - On the homepage, on the right side in the green box, you should see &#8220;Post a score.&#8221; Click this link and you should be all set.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
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		<title>By: Burton Goldstein</title>
		<link>http://www.ncga.org/2007/06/18/fit-to-a-t/#comment-825</link>
		<author>Burton Goldstein</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 20:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.ncga.org/2007/06/18/fit-to-a-t/#comment-825</guid>
		<description>Where on your website and how do I post a score?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where on your website and how do I post a score?</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Seward</title>
		<link>http://www.ncga.org/2007/06/18/fit-to-a-t/#comment-778</link>
		<author>Scott Seward</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.ncga.org/2007/06/18/fit-to-a-t/#comment-778</guid>
		<description>Ron - Contact your club's handicap chairman. Only your club can delete a score.

Thanks,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron - Contact your club&#8217;s handicap chairman. Only your club can delete a score.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Kaanehe</title>
		<link>http://www.ncga.org/2007/06/18/fit-to-a-t/#comment-777</link>
		<author>Ron Kaanehe</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.ncga.org/2007/06/18/fit-to-a-t/#comment-777</guid>
		<description>I was posting a score via the internet and experienced some internet connection difficulties.  When the score finally posted, I noticed that it had posted the score twice.  How can I get that corrected?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was posting a score via the internet and experienced some internet connection difficulties.  When the score finally posted, I noticed that it had posted the score twice.  How can I get that corrected?</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Cowan</title>
		<link>http://www.ncga.org/2007/06/18/fit-to-a-t/#comment-740</link>
		<author>Jim Cowan</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 20:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.ncga.org/2007/06/18/fit-to-a-t/#comment-740</guid>
		<description>T. Low - Thank you for your comment, though without your name or NCGA/GHIN number I am unable to look up the specifics of your record. Perhaps you can e-mail that info to me. In general, T-scores are retained for a year, in part, so that they can still be a factor a year later when the golfer plays in the same tournament again. And shouldn't reductions kick in precisely for the tournament season? What would be the point of the System if the same golfer could win the same net tournament year after year with outrageously low scores? I also do not understand your match play comments and why, assuming you are posting properly for concessions and unplayed holes, you feel they should not be factored in. If you play in match play events, why shouldn't these rounds become ingredients for the handicap you use in match play? Again, if you e-mail me directly I can review your record in more detail. Thanks - Jim Cowan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T. Low - Thank you for your comment, though without your name or NCGA/GHIN number I am unable to look up the specifics of your record. Perhaps you can e-mail that info to me. In general, T-scores are retained for a year, in part, so that they can still be a factor a year later when the golfer plays in the same tournament again. And shouldn&#8217;t reductions kick in precisely for the tournament season? What would be the point of the System if the same golfer could win the same net tournament year after year with outrageously low scores? I also do not understand your match play comments and why, assuming you are posting properly for concessions and unplayed holes, you feel they should not be factored in. If you play in match play events, why shouldn&#8217;t these rounds become ingredients for the handicap you use in match play? Again, if you e-mail me directly I can review your record in more detail. Thanks - Jim Cowan</p>
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		<title>By: T. Low</title>
		<link>http://www.ncga.org/2007/06/18/fit-to-a-t/#comment-739</link>
		<author>T. Low</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.ncga.org/2007/06/18/fit-to-a-t/#comment-739</guid>
		<description>I can see being reduced for 2 months, but I am reduced now for 4 months and probably have to go 2 more months,before  the 'T' score is bumped out?? Of course this is the start of tournament season and I am being shafted out of 3-4 strokes, because my trend with the scores I posted lately say so,, We should not have to post 'T' for Match Play tournaments of any kind.... and I am no  sand bagger</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see being reduced for 2 months, but I am reduced now for 4 months and probably have to go 2 more months,before  the &#8216;T&#8217; score is bumped out?? Of course this is the start of tournament season and I am being shafted out of 3-4 strokes, because my trend with the scores I posted lately say so,, We should not have to post &#8216;T&#8217; for Match Play tournaments of any kind&#8230;. and I am no  sand bagger</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Cowan</title>
		<link>http://www.ncga.org/2007/06/18/fit-to-a-t/#comment-563</link>
		<author>Jim Cowan</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.ncga.org/2007/06/18/fit-to-a-t/#comment-563</guid>
		<description>Warren,
  You will need to report the error to your club. They have the necessary software to perform any sort of score correction or deletion. Thanks - Jim Cowan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Warren,<br />
  You will need to report the error to your club. They have the necessary software to perform any sort of score correction or deletion. Thanks - Jim Cowan</p>
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		<title>By: warren hageman</title>
		<link>http://www.ncga.org/2007/06/18/fit-to-a-t/#comment-562</link>
		<author>warren hageman</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 23:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.ncga.org/2007/06/18/fit-to-a-t/#comment-562</guid>
		<description>i played a roseville golf club tournament at diamond oaks on 02/02/08
and shot a 94. on one hole i had a 9. my handicap was posted as a 15. 
i deducted 2 strokes (9-2=7) and posted my score. however i then saw that some club member had posted the score as 94 which i believe was wrong. also the course he posted was lincoln hills????!!!! wrong. how and who should correct this?????!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i played a roseville golf club tournament at diamond oaks on 02/02/08<br />
and shot a 94. on one hole i had a 9. my handicap was posted as a 15.<br />
i deducted 2 strokes (9-2=7) and posted my score. however i then saw that some club member had posted the score as 94 which i believe was wrong. also the course he posted was lincoln hills????!!!! wrong. how and who should correct this?????!!</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Cowan</title>
		<link>http://www.ncga.org/2007/06/18/fit-to-a-t/#comment-502</link>
		<author>Jim Cowan</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 23:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.ncga.org/2007/06/18/fit-to-a-t/#comment-502</guid>
		<description>Thank you for your comments, Leland. Given the fact that a handicap is based on just the upper 10 scores of a golfer's 20 most recent rounds and the fact that handicaps are based on 96% of the difference between adjusted scores and the Course/Slope ratings (and not 100%), a golfer cannot play to their handicap with any regularity. To do so would mean that the handicap would be in a constant state of decline. Most golfers can view the referenced 1 in 5 ratio for themselves by examining their January 1st Handicap Index and the differentials of their 20 most recent rounds. In most cases golfers will find precisely 4 of the 20 rounds where they recorded a differential equal to or lower than the level of the issued Handicap Index. Thanks again - Jim Cowan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your comments, Leland. Given the fact that a handicap is based on just the upper 10 scores of a golfer&#8217;s 20 most recent rounds and the fact that handicaps are based on 96% of the difference between adjusted scores and the Course/Slope ratings (and not 100%), a golfer cannot play to their handicap with any regularity. To do so would mean that the handicap would be in a constant state of decline. Most golfers can view the referenced 1 in 5 ratio for themselves by examining their January 1st Handicap Index and the differentials of their 20 most recent rounds. In most cases golfers will find precisely 4 of the 20 rounds where they recorded a differential equal to or lower than the level of the issued Handicap Index. Thanks again - Jim Cowan</p>
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		<title>By: Leland Landry</title>
		<link>http://www.ncga.org/2007/06/18/fit-to-a-t/#comment-435</link>
		<author>Leland Landry</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 19:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.ncga.org/2007/06/18/fit-to-a-t/#comment-435</guid>
		<description>Regards the comment above:  "In short, a golfer only has around a 1 in 5 chance of playing to or better than his handicap."  Say what?

First of all, using proper statistical anyalysis of any game of chance, like the roll of a die, the statistics starts over with each roll.  1 in 5, then 1 in 5, then 1 in 5, etc...  Therefore for your statement to be true the following is certainly true:

NO golfer would ever better his/her handicap and therefore it would then be EXPECTED that every golfer gets "worse" over time, or at least to not improve.

Statistically, this 'may' make sense for near scratch handicapers, but not bogey handicapers.  Seems these 'odds' and T-adjusted handicaps are made to 'protect' the lower handicapers.

No matter how you "do" the math, the idea that that golfers cannot compete with their own handicap is not natural or real.  The envisioned goal for ALL golfers is improvement and that is a continual betterment of their handicap.

Whatever happened to the 'rules' (versus this "total score and slope" entry only) that seem missing regarding adjusting one's hole score according to one's handicap, ie, if a 10-14 handicaper, one cannot mark scorecard greater than double bogey on any hole (if memory serves).  Seems this set of 'statistics' and odds reflect entering gross scores unedited hole-by-hole...

thanks for your reply
leland</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regards the comment above:  &#8220;In short, a golfer only has around a 1 in 5 chance of playing to or better than his handicap.&#8221;  Say what?</p>
<p>First of all, using proper statistical anyalysis of any game of chance, like the roll of a die, the statistics starts over with each roll.  1 in 5, then 1 in 5, then 1 in 5, etc&#8230;  Therefore for your statement to be true the following is certainly true:</p>
<p>NO golfer would ever better his/her handicap and therefore it would then be EXPECTED that every golfer gets &#8220;worse&#8221; over time, or at least to not improve.</p>
<p>Statistically, this &#8216;may&#8217; make sense for near scratch handicapers, but not bogey handicapers.  Seems these &#8216;odds&#8217; and T-adjusted handicaps are made to &#8216;protect&#8217; the lower handicapers.</p>
<p>No matter how you &#8220;do&#8221; the math, the idea that that golfers cannot compete with their own handicap is not natural or real.  The envisioned goal for ALL golfers is improvement and that is a continual betterment of their handicap.</p>
<p>Whatever happened to the &#8216;rules&#8217; (versus this &#8220;total score and slope&#8221; entry only) that seem missing regarding adjusting one&#8217;s hole score according to one&#8217;s handicap, ie, if a 10-14 handicaper, one cannot mark scorecard greater than double bogey on any hole (if memory serves).  Seems this set of &#8217;statistics&#8217; and odds reflect entering gross scores unedited hole-by-hole&#8230;</p>
<p>thanks for your reply<br />
leland</p>
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