Comments on: Old Wives Tails http://www.ncga.org/2007/08/02/old-wives-tails/ Northern California Golf Association Sun, 21 Mar 2010 07:03:19 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: John Vander Borght http://www.ncga.org/2007/08/02/old-wives-tails/comment-page-1/#comment-2617 John Vander Borght Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:44:54 +0000 http://www.ncga.org/2007/08/02/old-wives-tails/#comment-2617 Dan, You are correct that the rule changed in 2008. There is no penalty. That answer was written in 2007. Dan,
You are correct that the rule changed in 2008. There is no penalty. That answer was written in 2007.

]]> By: Dan Chappell http://www.ncga.org/2007/08/02/old-wives-tails/comment-page-1/#comment-2610 Dan Chappell Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:13:29 +0000 http://www.ncga.org/2007/08/02/old-wives-tails/#comment-2610 Love your column. you just stated that moving a flagstick lying on the green if it is going to be struck by a putted ball is a penalty under rule 24-1, however in the rules changes for 2008 you stated that you may lift the flagstick lying on the green in this case as an exception under rule 24-1. Please clarify. Love your column.
you just stated that moving a flagstick lying on the green if it is going to be struck by a putted ball is a penalty under rule 24-1, however in the rules changes for 2008 you stated that you may lift the flagstick lying on the green in this case as an exception under rule 24-1. Please clarify.

]]> By: Joshua Resa http://www.ncga.org/2007/08/02/old-wives-tails/comment-page-1/#comment-2471 Joshua Resa Tue, 23 Jun 2009 08:21:48 +0000 http://www.ncga.org/2007/08/02/old-wives-tails/#comment-2471 One common occurrence at my club: the green is on the other side of a river/creek. Often, a ball will fly over the river and roll back into the hazard. You would have to drop on this side of the river, since on the other side, any drop within two club lengths would put you closer to the hole than where the ball went in the hazard. Some might try to drop on the other side, assuming that they should drop where the ball went into the river. One common occurrence at my club: the green is on the other side of a river/creek. Often, a ball will fly over the river and roll back into the hazard. You would have to drop on this side of the river, since on the other side, any drop within two club lengths would put you closer to the hole than where the ball went in the hazard. Some might try to drop on the other side, assuming that they should drop where the ball went into the river.

]]> By: John Vander Borght http://www.ncga.org/2007/08/02/old-wives-tails/comment-page-1/#comment-2454 John Vander Borght Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:21:08 +0000 http://www.ncga.org/2007/08/02/old-wives-tails/#comment-2454 Mr Starr, According to Rule 20-3c, if a ball, when dropped, bounces into a hazard, it must be redropped. If it does it again, you would place it where it first struck the course. If that was on a cart path, you could take relief from the cart path at the nearest point of relief outside the hazard. You can not catch the ball before it goes into the hazard. That would be a violation of Rule 1-2. Once it enters the hazard, if there was no chance it could come back out you could grab it before it stops and proceed as above. Mr Starr,
According to Rule 20-3c, if a ball, when dropped, bounces into a hazard, it must be redropped. If it does it again, you would place it where it first struck the course. If that was on a cart path, you could take relief from the cart path at the nearest point of relief outside the hazard.

You can not catch the ball before it goes into the hazard. That would be a violation of Rule 1-2. Once it enters the hazard, if there was no chance it could come back out you could grab it before it stops and proceed as above.

]]> By: roc starr http://www.ncga.org/2007/08/02/old-wives-tails/comment-page-1/#comment-2453 roc starr Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:15:31 +0000 http://www.ncga.org/2007/08/02/old-wives-tails/#comment-2453 par 3,from hte Tee box I sliced the ball right of the green in the bushes marked by red stakes about pin high. cart path between the red stakes about a club lenght apart. if I drop my ball it will land on the cart path and bounce back into the hazzard, can I get relief from the cart path by dropping and catching the ball before it rolls back into the hazzard then place it where it first hit the cart path and then get relief from the cart path? please advise thx roc starr par 3,from hte Tee box I sliced the ball right of the green in the bushes marked by red stakes about pin high.
cart path between the red stakes about a club lenght apart. if I drop my ball it will land on the cart path and bounce back into the hazzard, can I get relief from the cart path by dropping and catching the ball before it rolls back into the hazzard then place it where it first hit the cart path and then get relief from the cart path?
please advise

thx

roc starr

]]> By: Jerry Walton http://www.ncga.org/2007/08/02/old-wives-tails/comment-page-1/#comment-2053 Jerry Walton Wed, 15 Apr 2009 18:23:30 +0000 http://www.ncga.org/2007/08/02/old-wives-tails/#comment-2053 Thank You Thank You

]]> By: John Vander Borght http://www.ncga.org/2007/08/02/old-wives-tails/comment-page-1/#comment-1869 John Vander Borght Mon, 06 Apr 2009 01:28:31 +0000 http://www.ncga.org/2007/08/02/old-wives-tails/#comment-1869 Jerry, In the case described above, the ball is in bounds, but the stake interferes with the player's stance or area of intended swing. Therefore the player must play the ball as it lies or take relief by proceeding under the unplayable lie rule under penalty of one stroke. Jerry,

In the case described above, the ball is in bounds, but the stake interferes with the player’s stance or area of intended swing. Therefore the player must play the ball as it lies or take relief by proceeding under the unplayable lie rule under penalty of one stroke.

]]> By: Jerry Walton http://www.ncga.org/2007/08/02/old-wives-tails/comment-page-1/#comment-1865 Jerry Walton Fri, 03 Apr 2009 19:09:06 +0000 http://www.ncga.org/2007/08/02/old-wives-tails/#comment-1865 The out of bounds rule that was talked about said that play it as it lies. I thought that you need to hit a provisnial ball at the tee box or in the fairway. I didn't think that you could play the ball from OB? The out of bounds rule that was talked about said that play it as it lies. I thought that you need to hit a provisnial ball at the tee box or in the fairway. I didn’t think that you could play the ball from OB?

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]]> By: Jim Erdos http://www.ncga.org/2007/08/02/old-wives-tails/comment-page-1/#comment-1282 Jim Erdos Sun, 23 Nov 2008 18:48:50 +0000 http://www.ncga.org/2007/08/02/old-wives-tails/#comment-1282 Gail, Yesterday evening, my wife and I were watching the recorded third round of the LPGA ADT championship. Helen Alfredson was having a difficult time near the 18th green. She hit her fourth shot short of the green and the ball rolled the hill, gathering speed, toward the water hazard on the right. As the ball crossed the margin of the hazard, she intentionally caught the ball with her hand and picked it up. The short comment by the broadcaster later said there was no penalty assessed. My rules research is only able to find reference to a ball "accidentally" deflected. Please comment. Thanks Gail,
Yesterday evening, my wife and I were watching the recorded third round of the LPGA ADT championship. Helen Alfredson was having a difficult time near the 18th green. She hit her fourth shot short of the green and the ball rolled the hill, gathering speed, toward the water hazard on the right. As the ball crossed the margin of the hazard, she intentionally caught the ball with her hand and picked it up. The short comment by the broadcaster later said there was no penalty assessed. My rules research is only able to find reference to a ball “accidentally” deflected. Please comment. Thanks

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